Personally I’ve always thought a true official Discourse mobile app, where users can subscribe to any Discourse forum and get notifications, offline sync, and significantly better compose options, would be a much better solution for actually interacting on a mobile device. I’m not an expert on how things work under the hood, so it’s just my uninformed two cents. Once the initial page load is over it seems like Android performance isn’t nearly as bad. Render things server side instead of on the client, so you can instantly send down the entire cached page sans the user icon in the menu, and then load that in afterwards (along with anything else). The user experience (on all devices) does. And for the most part, it’s an excellent solution that has definitely changed how people think about forums. They choose Discourse because it’s a forum that tries to solve the real problems that regular forums have. No site owner chooses Discourse because it is built with JavaScript and Ember and whatever else you use. Wikipedia is not a “PHP app” any more than Facebook was (and isn’t really anymore). Sure, that’s what it is built with, but that’s not what it is. How do you throw away what you are? You can’t rip out your own skeleton.ĭiscourse is not a JavaScript app. So it’s really about throwing away the JavaScript part of the app, which is challenging since Discourse is a JavaScript app. It’s just not worth the performance trade off in my mind at this time on such a large segment of our users devices. At this moment in time, I would support discourse moving away from Ember, even though I think the functionality Ember provides is pretty core to the Discourse experience. I don’t WANT to move away from discourse, but if Android performance doesn’t start to improve we may have to since 68% of our active users are on Android devices. We have a discourse forum for our sports site ( ) and many of our writers have been complaining about poor performance of the forum on their older android phones. I love my phone (Moto X 2014) and much prefer Android to iOS but as JS apps are becoming more ubiquitous we’re almost at the point where a (personally) inferior experience on the rest of the device is worth the trade off to have the sites I use and love work well. This is getting really frustrating for me personally, not just from a developer standpoint but from a consumer standpoint. Part of it is indeed Chrome/V8 JavaScript optimization issues on Android as you can see from this AnandTech Galaxy S6 review. We’ve done enough research to know this issue is not really specific to Ember, but also affects Angular and most other heavy/complex JavaScript on Android. In a nutshell, the fastest known Android device available today – and there are millions of Android devices much slower than that out there – performs 5× slower than a new iPhone 6s, and a little worse than a 2012 era iPhone 5 in Ember. That doesn’t seem too bad until you compare… This is the benchmark most representative of Discourse performance, and the absolute best known Android score for this benchmark is right at ~400ms on a Samsung Galaxy S6. To give you an idea of how divergent it has become, try: After highlighting the S21’s ability to capture 8K video, the ad’s narrator claims the phone has plenty of space to store all your photos and videos.For several years now we’ve tracked the fact that, over time from 2012 onward, Android JavaScript performance has become wildly divergent from iOS JavaScript performance. Setting aside the fact that’s not a very realistic scenario at the moment (or the fact no one is wearing a mask), there’s one thing that stands out about the ad. The ad presents a twenty-something woman and her friends going on a road trip while a narrator highlights some of the features of the S21. Normally we don’t cover ads (unless they also happen to be a Weezer video as well), but we decided to flag this one because it caused some raised eyebrows among the Android Authority team. With the Galaxy S21 and S21 Ultra out today, Samsung has released a new ad called “The Trip” to sell consumers on its new flagships. The base S21 comes with 128GB of storage, which you can’t expand since it doesn’t come with a MicroSD anymore.The ad claims the S21 has plenty of space for all your 8K videos and then some.Samsung has released a new Galaxy S21 ad titled “The Trip.”.
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